Summary
A coffee chat is three things at once: the final hurdle before a first-round interview, where you earn the referral that's essentially your ticket in; a source of proven behavioral-answer ammunition; and interview practice you can't get anywhere else. Start early, target Analysts first, and make the outreach about them, not the job.
Picture a hundred finance students at the start of a recruiting cycle. About eighty of them will tell you they want to do investment banking. Only fifty will actually start networking for it. Of those fifty, only about thirty will be diligent enough to keep at it across at least two semesters, roughly eight months of sustained outreach. And of those thirty, only about fifteen will track their outreach methodically and take a genuinely scientific approach to it. That last group of fifteen is, overwhelmingly, the group that reaches the first-round interview.
The twenty who drop out early don't quit because they're less capable. They quit because they can't withstand the continual rejection that's baked into any recruiting process. On any given day, for any given role, sending 100 outreach messages will never produce 100 replies. The rejection isn't a verdict on you; it's a lagging indicator of your determination to keep going. Most people stop. The field thins itself out. That's the single most encouraging fact about this whole process.
This guide is about the engine that decides which group you end up in: the coffee chat, and the outreach that earns it. Everything here is built from what I learned doing 300+ coffee chats of my own while recruiting, listening to and reviewing 150+ of my students' chats, and being on the other side of the table, coffee-chatted 50+ times. I'll be honest with you about my starting point: I'm extremely introverted, I spend the vast majority of my time alone, and coffee chatting scared the hell out of me. My early chats had 15-second awkward silences. The only reason I got good was reps, over and over, until it stopped being terrifying. Now it's my full-time job helping students make the same transformation. If I can do it, you can too.
One scope note before we start. Networking is a wide subject, and a few of its pillars deserve their own dedicated treatment: LinkedIn outreach, plug-and-play email templates, small-talk technique, sourcing contacts, and exact follow-up cadence all live in companion Capstack resources I'll point you to as we go. What follows is the spine that ties them together: how to time your outreach, who to target, how to write the email that gets a reply, and how to run the conversation that earns the referral.
Why Coffee Chats Decide the Interview
Start with the mechanics of what a coffee chat actually buys you, because it's more than one thing.
First, it's how you earn a referral, and that referral is essentially your ticket to the first-round interview. At larger firms, junior bankers and HR are used as a first line of defense; only "vetted" candidates make it through. A coffee chat is where the vetting happens. This is why I think of coffee chats as the final hurdle before the interview.
Second, it's a source of interview ammunition and insider information. The ammunition is behavioral-answer material you can be confident actually works, because it clearly worked for the person sitting across from you. They broke in. Their answers got them the offer. The insider information is subtler but just as valuable: details about the firm, its culture, specific teams, recent deals, or who's running point on recruiting. If you can reference something in an interview that other students can't, you look more credible, more prepared, and more genuinely interested, all of which help when you walk into a first round or a Superday.
It's worth pausing on why this information is so valuable: almost none of it is ascertainable from the outside-in. If a particular Analyst is in charge of recruiting, a past or incoming intern can tell you that. If a specific person in HR is running point on undergraduate recruiting, an Analyst can share it. If a certain MD is the gatekeeper for first rounds, Analysts or interns are the ones most willing to let you know. Without networking, a student's recruiting prospects are quietly handicapped by everything they don't know.
Third, it's interview practice you can't get anywhere else. Every coffee chat is different. You're going to be put on the spot, and a coffee chat forces you to articulate your thoughts clearly and quickly, form coherent responses in real time, and generate tailored questions all while actively listening to someone speak. That's the exact skill set an interview tests.
So a coffee chat is three things at once: the final hurdle before the interview, a source of inspiration for your behavioral answers, and a setting in which to practice delivering them.
That second point deserves a real strategy, because it's where most students leave value on the table. The biggest reason students struggle to build high-quality behavioral answers is that they have no basis for comparison. People don't walk around reciting their scripted interview answers, so it's genuinely hard to know what "high-quality" even sounds like. It's all relative. And since most students never break in, most of the feedback you'll get on your answers is close to worthless. The best people to review your answers are the ones who've already landed offers at the firms and in the roles you're targeting. Senior students are a wonderful resource for this, but why stop there? You're already on the phone with professionals who broke in. Use it.
Here's the concrete habit. On your next coffee chat, pick one behavioral question, "Why investment banking?" for example, and aim to improve your current answer using theirs. In just five to ten chats you could have everything you need to build strong answers for the Core 3 Behavioral Questions, meaning Tell Me About Yourself, Why This Role, and Why This Firm. The only work left is adapting their material to your own experiences, speaking style, and personality. Remember that technical questions are a bar to meet, while behavioral questions have no upper limit on quality. Behaviorals are what determine your offer.
And if there's one principle that survived all 300+ of my chats, it's this: consistency is king. There are endless factors outside your control that affect your odds, but there's a short list of things inside your control that you must get right in every single chat. Those are what make one chat "better" than another, what let a student with less experience beat one with more, and what ultimately earns the referral. The rest of this guide is that list.
Start Early: Why Timing Beats Almost Everything
Most students think you can't reach out to a banker eight months before an interview process because, well, "that's too early." Sit with how empty that reasoning is. "I can't network early because it's too early." That's not an argument; it's a feeling.
The real reason that feeling exists is that the email you're imagining is overtly about a job. You picture yourself writing about the SA'26 cycle, saying you're "interested in learning about potential internship opportunities" and would "love to learn about the firm." Take the classic version of that email, the kind sent during penultimate-summer networking.
A line about the sender's summer seat on a pension fund's PE team, a declaration that they're pursuing next summer's internship at the recipient's firm, a request for a call about "potential internship opportunities," a thank-you. The whole note is about the sender. I walk through that exact email, line by line, in the cold-email guide.
Sent well in advance of the cycle, an email like this lands badly. All networking is transactional to some degree, but this is so overtly transactional that it works against you instead of for you.
The fix is simple to say and hard to do: make the email about them. Focus purely on the person, their background, and the specific things about both that you find genuinely interesting. Use that as the basis for your outreach. The recipient will be surprised to get an email from a student that contains no mention of a job, which makes you stand out, and they'll be far more likely to take a chat with you, provided your resume is good enough to actually compete for that firm.
Then nurture the connection. If you have that first chat and then stay on their radar over the following six months or so, with a brief nurture email roughly every three months, there's a real chance they become an advocate for your first-round interview. You've built a genuine relationship and, crucially, you've never asked for a job-related favor, so you've accumulated enough goodwill to cash in when it matters. That advocacy is worth far more than an email sent the day the posting drops.
This is exactly what Sun Tzu meant: "Every battle is won before it is fought." The battle is for the offer, and you don't win it by showing up at the deadline.
What's Wrong With Waiting
Here's what waiting actually costs you.
You stand out less and less over time. If two months ago there were 50 students networking a firm, now there are 200, next month there'll be 400, and when the posting drops there'll be thousands. To wait until the posting is to eliminate your odds of a first-round interview if your resume is average.
You look like you're only after a "resume push." Everyone you network with already knows how this game is played. But here's the Syndrome line from The Incredibles: "And when everyone's super, no one will be." If every student knows these chats are about referrals, your job is to act as if no one does. It's everything but asking for the referral that gets you the referral.
You look like every other candidate. Which students can comfortably network eight months out? The ones who take recruiting most seriously. Reaching out early doesn't automatically make you one of them, but adopting that mindset across the rest of recruiting, and frankly the rest of your life, is what eventually does.
You greatly increase the odds of rubbing people the wrong way. As pressure builds and you keep delaying, the temptation is to blast as many firms as possible to make up for lost time. This is where it gets dangerous, and I speak from direct experience.
I started my US investment banking cycle in January, already feeling the pressure, having missed megafund PE recruiting and not yet networked with any US banks. I started blasting every elite boutique I saw Canadians working at: Centerview, PJT, Moelis, Evercore, Perella Weinberg, and more. I emailed roughly 100+ PJT employees and got zero responses. Why? Because I sent them all in one week. How do I know that was the problem? A friend with an objectively worse resume got in touch with a handful of analysts by going slower, sending two emails a week to their NYC office. My follow-ups to PJT got nothing either. The math told me I'd rubbed someone, or a group of people, the wrong way.
It's not an isolated story. A friend of mine emailed four BDT-MSD analysts in one week in November of 2023, for the SA'25 cycle. Two days later an analyst emailed him back to say the office had talked and people were displeased to see a student emailing four of them at once with near-identical messages. He did not get a first-round interview. Another friend emailed five Ducera Partners employees in one week during the SA'23 cycle and quickly got a very angry email from a Director telling him he wasn't "allowed" to do that. Oddly, I did the same thing at Ducera and didn't get the angry email. Even stranger, we both ended up with interviews, I got LA and NYC, he got LA, and after we did them, neither of us ever heard from the firm again.
Who to Talk To: Work the Hierarchy From the Bottom Up
Who you network with changes by firm and by how much time is left before a deadline. Some firms lean heavily on HR to arrange and conduct first rounds. Some prefer their Analysts or Associates to run them. Smaller firms often want you to speak with the head honcho, the Partner or Founder, because there simply aren't enough employees to delegate recruiting to and the person at the top likes being involved in everything.
For the larger firms most readers are targeting, the rule is to start all the way at the bottom: with Analysts, or even lower, with incoming or past interns.
Analysts
Two reasons Analysts come first.
They're the richest source of ammunition and insider information. They're closest to you in age, so these are the easiest conversations you'll have. They very recently recruited successfully for this exact firm, so their interview answers are proven, copy and adapt them. And because a student is genuinely an "asset" to an Analyst in a way you simply aren't to a senior banker, Analysts tend to be more generous with information and more forgiving of gaps in your understanding. Senior bankers, by contrast, often do little more than answer your questions curtly, and honestly, rightly so. If you're an undergrad trying to learn about a firm you'd join as an Analyst, the people whose experience most resembles your near future are the ones to talk to first. Students who run straight to the MD usually do it hoping to get lucky with the big name. I've done it too. It's the wrong move.
They're sufficient for a referral. At a few firms a good word from a past intern is enough; at most firms you'll need the backing of an Analyst or above, but an Analyst alone is typically adequate. Combine that with the fact that Analysts are far more likely than senior bankers to reply to a cold email, and Analysts become the single group you're most likely to get a referral from. If you're short on time and can only manage one chat, make it an Analyst. It's your best possible use of the hour.
You should speak to senior employees eventually, because their word carries more weight than any Analyst's. But only after you've spoken to the juniors, for a concrete reason. When you finally email an Executive Director, you can name the people you've already spoken with, and that does two things.
First, it helps prevent you from being forwarded back "down" the hierarchy. Senior bankers routinely forward student cold emails to Analysts and Associates out of time and convenience. A student who's already spoken to those levels doesn't want that, so naming those contacts and explaining you're reaching out for a different, more senior perspective justifies why you emailed them specifically. Here's an example of how that email might look:
Four sentences: who you are, the four juniors on his team you've already talked to, why those chats make you want the view from the top, and the ask for a call this week or next. I give the exact wording in my guide to who to network with at a bank.
Second, it's a display of work ethic. Imagine an MD gets three emails: one with no mention of other contacts, one mentioning a single conversation, and one mentioning five. Resume differences aside, which student looks most deserving of a reply or a referral? It's obvious. And even in the likely event the MD forwards the strongest student's email down the chain, the junior who receives it inherits that same positive impression, which improves the student's odds. Name-dropping your prior chats won't guarantee you skip the forward, but it maximally mitigates it.
One snapshot worth internalizing, with a caveat I'll repeat: recruiting processes change year to year and vary by firm, so treat the specifics as observations from my cycle, not laws. When I was recruiting, Bank of America leaned very heavily on HR; all their first-round interviews were group coffee chats run by an HR employee. Moelis, by contrast, always ran first rounds through Analysts and Associates. Talking to an Analyst or past intern is exactly how you'd discover which model a given firm uses. If you learn HR is integral to a process, reach out, but know that HR will drive the conversation, actively question you, and evaluate your candidacy from start to finish. Getting the chat is easy; impressing them to the point of a referral is not. Like senior bankers, reach out to HR only after you've spoken with a handful of Analysts or Associates.
Don't get too bogged down in mapping all of this in advance. As long as you're actively networking, much of "what to do next" gets revealed at the end of your chats, when the other person volunteers recruiting advice and firm background.
Associates
From a student's perspective, an Associate is generally about as useful as an Analyst. They might have the final say on first-round candidates, but more often they work alongside Analysts to decide who advances. A single chat with an Associate can yield a referral, but the more likely outcome of a good chat is that they refer you either upward to a VP or downward to an Analyst.
If they refer you downward to an Analyst, the firm likely uses Analysts to sniff out the most deserving candidates. The Associate will discuss your candidacy with that Analyst, trusting that the Analyst's recency in recruiting and closeness in age make for the most accurate read on a student.
Vice Presidents, Directors, and Managing Directors
I think of senior chats as a levered-up version of junior chats. Just as leverage amplifies returns in both directions, a senior employee's impression of you, good or bad, has an outsized effect on your candidacy. So preparation here can't be overstated, and your best preparation is, again, talking to other employees first. In fact, check with those junior contacts whether a senior chat is even necessary. If it isn't, why risk the bad impression?
This is also why senior chats make the best training ground. Think of elite distance runners training at altitude: when they return to normal oxygen, their acclimated bodies outperform. Train your coffee-chat skills against the most demanding group, and chats with HR, Analysts, or interns will feel easy by comparison, and you'll improve faster than your peers. Just be sure to run these "practice" reps in low-risk settings, with people outside your actual targets, because first impressions last.
The Cold Outreach Email: Make It About Them
Most students play recruiting reactively. They see a posting, tweak their cover letter, and fire off a few outreach messages to the team. From the recipient's side, your message is one of hundreds they've received since the posting went up. You either look average or your email gets lost, but either way, reaching out a few days before a deadline is a near-guaranteed way to not get an interview.
Now imagine your message does get through and they're about to reply. They know the posting is out, if HR didn't tell them, the flood of student emails did. They also know the sole reason you're writing is to get a referral. And that's fine, because they'd assume that even if you reached out two months earlier. What changes when you reach out early isn't their assumption about your motive; it's how you look. Instead of one more desperate student among hundreds, you look like an organized, prepared candidate who takes their career seriously, more seriously than 99% of their peers. In one word, you look like an asset.
Reaching out early also lets you center the email on the recipient rather than on a cycle or position. Reactive networking carries an overwhelming sense of urgency. You can't ask for a referral outright, so you try to signal intent without sounding entitled, which usually produces an email that explicitly name-drops "internship opportunities," "Summer 202X," or a recruiting cycle. It reads like this:
"Hi [First Name],
I hope you're doing well!
My name is [Your Name] and I'm currently a 2026 at [College]. Having completed multiple internships across [Role] and [Role] throughout college, I'm very interested in pursuing a career in [Position].
Given you've been at [Their Firm] for 2 years now, I'd love to learn more about you, your experiences there, and any potential internship opportunities for the Summer of 2027.
[…]"
It continues for five more lines you can already predict. The full version, and why each line fails, lives in how to cold email a banker.
This email isn't wrong. It's just too generic. It's the email you blast when you've seen a posting with three days left on the clock. Personalizing each one would be overwhelming, and stripping out the mention of internships feels almost self-defeating, if you don't express interest in the role, why would they pick your email over one that clearly does? To some extent that fear is justified, and that's exactly the trap of networking late: you either look desperate and indistinguishable from the crowd, or you look like you only want an informational chat with no real interest in the role. With an average resume, both paths lead to near-zero odds.
Start early and there's no need to blast. The time you've bought lets you take a methodical, organic approach that builds real relationships. The rule of thumb is to speak with two to five people at a given firm to maximize your odds of a referral. The subscript I'd add is that the chats after the first should be secured organically: the first person refers you to the second, who refers you to the third, and so on. The first person only does that if they think you're a winning horse, if you've built enough rapport and they see you as an asset.
Your asset-likeness comes down to the chat itself and your resume, but the rapport that drives the referral chain starts before the chat, in your outreach email. Instead of the generic version above, this email contains no mention of internships or cycles and focuses entirely on the recipient. In fact, it was something about the recipient, not the firm or role, that prompted you to reach out at all.
It greets Bob by name, points to the Cisco–Splunk deal team he was part of and the VC club he ran, tells him his club resources were good enough to share, ties his background to the sender's incubator experience – and then asks for a quick call this week or next. Word for word, it's in my email templates library.
For ready-to-send follow-up email templates, see the Email Templates in the Email Networking Course.
Set the Right Objective, and Prep Like It Matters
What to Actually Aim For
The aim of any coffee chat is to improve your odds of a first-round interview invitation. I deliberately don't say the aim is "a referral," because 99% of the time you won't know whether you got one until the day invitations go out. Making the referral your explicit goal holds you to an invisible, unachievable standard. Worse, trying to decode your odds from the other person's demeanor on the call is a losing battle that only undermines your confidence.
I know this firsthand. While recruiting, I got interview invitations from firms whose employees were dry and difficult to talk to, and I got ghosted by firms whose employees suggested I was in pole position. My read on those people was completely wrong and totally unproductive.
So because your true odds can't be measured, aim instead for a referral to another employee in every chat. Their willingness to connect you onward is a usable proxy for their impression of you. Think about it: some employees aren't in a position to offer an interview referral, but every one of them can connect you to a colleague. It follows that if they don't, you're probably not getting a first round, either you said something that signaled you weren't ready, or they've already shortlisted and see another chat as wasted time.
That said, don't over-read disposition. A lot of factors drive someone's behavior on a call, and putting on a smile for a student is nowhere near the top of their list. Not being connected onward is generally a bad sign, but what if they're just slammed and forgot? Everyone has bad days.
If this feels like it loops back on itself, that's because it does, and I'll be upfront about it: I started with referrals, then said referrals aren't the aim, then said the new aim is a different kind of referral, and then said that even no referral doesn't definitively mean you missed. The reason it's murky is that coffee chats are opaque. What happens behind closed doors between HR, Analysts, and Associates is hidden, and there is no silver bullet, no one-size-fits-all conversion formula. What works with one person flops with another. This year's process involves different people than last year's. Someone might love a certain accent and dislike another. Or you might genuinely not be the behavioral fit for the firm. The throughline is the proxy and the humility to not over-interpret it.
Beyond the primary objective, there's a clear secondary one: extracting information about job openings, the status of a process, and advice for interview success. This sounds obvious, and it is, but you'd be amazed how narrow your focus gets when you've spent the last twenty minutes barely keeping the conversation alive. So type up the questions you want to ask at the end of the chat before the chat, and keep them in front of you the whole time.
Build Your Coffee Chat Dashboard
The principle here is simple: have everything you might need open and in front of you, so your mental energy goes to the conversation instead of hunting through tabs. Here's the set of documents and windows I'd have open for any chat:
- Their LinkedIn profile
- Your resume
- Your TMAY and "Why this role?" answers
- Your personalized question list (mid-chat and end-of-chat) and small-talk prep (chat-start)
- Technicals (I used ibvine.io, all topics, List view)
- A notetaker (Excel, Docs, Notes, whatever you like)
- Your other scripts (intro, transitions, questions, responses)
A note on the technicals reference: I used ibvine.io rather than a combined PDF of the BIWS guides, because the PDF had too many instances of any given keyword to make Ctrl+F useful. Whatever you use, the goal is to be able to look something up fast without breaking your focus on the person.
Now, the optional extreme. I personally ran this across two laptops so everything was visible at once with no Alt+Tabbing, my Excel notetaker and their LinkedIn on one screen, and a blank research browser plus my technicals on the other. I'll be the first to say this two-laptop rig is overkill, and to most people it would be. To me it was due diligence. Most of the time it didn't matter, but for the five or ten chats where it did, it was worth it, especially because I had around five deals on my resume and was always worried someone would go deep on one. Take the principle, having your materials at hand, and scale the setup to your own anxiety and needs. You do not need two laptops.
On your question list specifically, here's why preparation matters so much. Imagine you have ten units of mental processing power in a chat. If you spend all ten crafting your next question while they talk, you have nothing left to actually respond, and the chat collapses into a Q&A. That's what's happening when you just acknowledge answers and move on. A prepared list of personalized questions offloads the burden of inventing questions on the spot, freeing capacity for the intelligent responses that build rapport and signal that you're a colleague. Before every chat I'd craft five to ten personalized questions from the person's background. Expect to ask only one or two of them, but know that the benefit goes far beyond those one or two, and that those one or two can genuinely tip the scales. And don't cling to the list: if the conversation goes somewhere you didn't plan, which it will about 90% of the time, follow them, or they won't feel heard.
For a complete breakdown of small-talk best practices, watch the How To: Small Talk video.
Running the Chat, Part 1: The Beginning
Get clear on what you want before you dial in. That clarity operates on a few levels. First, their role: if you're networking across roles, usually IB and PE, your TMAY and the way you frame certain resume experiences should adjust to who you're talking to, so build role-dependent versions of your behavioral answers and run through them before every chat. Second, your recruitment questions: always plan to ask about interview timelines, teammate connections, and staying in touch. Third, your personalized questions: spend roughly thirty minutes researching the industries, asset classes, markets, firms, or geographies relevant to the person after reviewing their LinkedIn, and write at least five questions so specific that swapping in a different person's name would make them nonsensical. That pre-chat research compounds; plenty of students have built entire interview industry pitches out of it.
When you hop on, introduce yourself and say:
Script · Adapt to your context
"Hi, my name is [Your Name]...I'm the [Your School] student who reached out to you last week. Is now still a good time to chat?"
You're going to be antsy, so make a deliberate effort to wait one to three seconds after they answer before you respond. Then start with small talk. Don't dive into your questions or your introduction immediately unless they signal a hard stop. If they do cut it short, don't take it as an insult; you're low on their priority list, and last-minute requests force people to end calls early all the time.
Small talk should run about one and a half to three minutes. Prepare jokes, questions, and responses beforehand, and don't settle for the dead-on-arrival "it was busy, I had exams, but they're all done now, so things are looking good." Instead, try something with a little texture:
"it was hectic, but I made it count – my intramural soccer team snuck into the playoffs somehow, and with the weather turning my friends and I got one last hike in before exams, which was honestly the highlight of my month…[chuckle]…so I can't complain"
The activities are arbitrary, swap in your own. The point is that this is how you show personality in a very short window, which is exactly what students who've mastered chats do. Extend the small talk until you sense they're losing interest, usually around the one-and-a-half to three-minute mark, then step in with your background:
Script · Adapt to your context
"Thanks again for making the time today – I know your calendar can't have much slack in it, so I appreciate it. If it works for you, I'll give you a quick snapshot of my background for context, and then I'd love to spend most of our time hearing about you and your path at [Their Firm]"
If they've made clear they want a short call but don't prompt you for your intro, take control gently:
"No problem, I totally understand. How about I give you a quick 60-second introduction, hear a little bit about you – for context, I have your LinkedIn profile on-screen – and in particular wanted to hear more about your full-time transition given where you summer'd is different from where you are now."
Taking the wheel here matters: it puts you in the driver's seat. Then deliver your introduction in about sixty seconds. Ninety is fine in an interview, but on a call, especially when they can't see your face, time passes much more slowly. Acing this introduction is Step 1 to securing a referral. It sets the tone and becomes the lens through which they view you for the rest of the call, so your delivery should be flawless: no "um," no "you know," no trailing "…annnnd…." Augment your TMAY with any of their interests you found online, and tailor it to their firm, group, or role.
Then hand the conversation to them:
Script · Adapt to your context
"With that being said, I'd love to learn more about you and how you found yourself in the industry?"
As they introduce themselves, listen closely to the chronology, and keep your notetaker open. Their intro is the start of the real conversation and will be full of tidbits you can use, either to sharpen the questions you've prepared or to invent new ones when you're struggling to form a follow-up. In that struggling moment, you can lean on something they mentioned earlier:
"[their answer]…Got it, that all tracks. [summary of their points back to them]…by the way, you said earlier that you [did a marathon last fall], which caught my ear because I've just started training for my first one. Was that a one-off, or are you still running? I can't imagine fitting the long runs around your schedule, though I'm guessing you've found a system."
Running the Chat, Part 2: The Conversation
Conversation vs. Q&A
You've heard "have a conversation, not a Q&A" a hundred times and probably found it hard to act on, because nobody defines the difference. Here's a clean one, measured by talking time after the small talk and TMAY exchange:
- Q&A: they talk more than 80% of the time.
- Conversation: the split is more like 60–70% them, 30–40% you.
The problem isn't diagnosing which one you're having; it's actually having a conversation. So next time, record the talking times for both of you. You won't take the problem seriously until you come face to face with it, and I'd wager many of you are running consistent Q&As right now. That's not good, but at least now it's named.
Here's why "have a conversation" isn't the same as "just talk more." There are only so many things you can say, and we're measuring past the first few minutes. If they tell you about the deals they're on and you respond with your take on Jerome Powell's latest speech, you might be splitting the mic 50/50, but that's a conversation you do not want, because it proves you weren't listening. So you have to stay on-topic, while having very little control over the topic. Simply clarifying what you misunderstood implies weak knowledge of their job; simply acknowledging and moving on implies no self-awareness or an attempt to drag things toward familiar ground. Neither is ideal.
How to Respond: Summarize, Relate, Then Ask
Here's the fix. Instead of jumping straight to your next question, demonstrate that you understood their point. If they talked for two minutes, summarize it in under 25% of that, roughly thirty seconds, and then either relate it to a past experience of yours or raise the point you wanted to clarify. If it's the former, use that experience to segue into a question that's related to what they said but still moves the conversation forward. If it's the latter, state what you expect them to say, or walk them through your thought process, before you ask.
There are two response flows:
Their (2-minute) Answer => Your (~30 second) Summary => Your Past Experience => Your Next Question
Their (2-minute) Answer => Your (~30 second) Summary => Point to Clarify => Your Thought Process / What You Expect Them To Say => Your Next Question
Here's the first flow in action, from a real chat one of my students had with an Associate on BofA's NYC investment banking team.
Her intro gave him everything: professionally trained concert pianist, two analyst years, now a first-year Associate in Technology, deal reps stacked up by a booming market. He answered with a summary of exactly that, bridged to his own years at the piano, and made his first question about her concert days rather than the desk. I break the exchange down line by line in my guide to standing out in a coffee chat.
See how he first summarizes what she said, so she feels heard, then relates a past experience of his own, then segues into his next question? The Associate had a background in musical performance, and the student made a point of fixing on it because he understood it was integral to building rapport. Most students would have blown right past it. As soon as he paused to double-click on the piano detail, I'm sure she realized she wasn't talking to an average student. If he'd skipped it, there might not have been another opening to score those personality points all call. Compare it to the weak version:
"Got it, thank you for the background. What was it like to be a professional pianist?"
That wouldn't have killed his chances, but omitting both the summary and his own piano experience would put him behind any student who included them.
Here's the same student later in the chat, walking the second flow.
The Associate laid out her team's flat structure – two Associates covering VP work under a single Director – and the student mirrored it back, called out how unusual it was, then asked, mid-thought, whether the team had always run that way. Her answer and his full wind-up are in the coffee-chat questions guide.
Notice he asked the question before walking through his thought process. That's fine. As long as you don't come across as incoherent and they can understand the question, the exact sequencing after your summary is of minimal importance. In both exchanges the student stretches his responses to roughly 30–40% of the talking time, where most students would acknowledge and move on. You don't need to say anything revolutionary to clear the conversation threshold; you just need to be polite, show understanding, and ask a relevant question right after. The hard part is doing it all at once: listening, forming your response, finding a past experience, and organizing your thoughts in real time.
One tactical tip that makes this possible: write down a question the instant it comes to mind. As they talk, a whirlwind of thoughts runs through your head, and an insightful question will surface and then vanish into the noise if you don't capture it. Don't evaluate whether it's good in the moment; jot it and judge it later, as they wrap up their answer and can afford a little less of your attention.
Simple Questions vs. Complex Questions
Those two flows are really just representations of how targeted a question is. Picture a spectrum: on the left, simple, non-targeted questions; on the right, complex, targeted ones, built out with either a walkthrough of your thought process or a story from your past.
On the left-hand side you have questions like:
- What was the biggest challenge you faced going full-time in investment banking?
- What's your team structure like?
- What's the culture like at your firm?
On the right-hand side, there are two ways to make a simple question complex. The first is to create a statement, meaning your thought process or what you expect them to say. Here's how I'd turn those same three simple questions into statement-style questions:
"Reading about the intern-to-analyst transition, what stood out to me is how often people mention the shift from one deal to several at once – juggling staffings seems to be where new analysts struggle most, more than any technical gap. I've been trying to get ahead of it by tightening up how I organize my work, though I suspect no system fully survives contact with a live deal. (chuckle) From your side, was managing multiple workstreams the biggest adjustment when you started full-time, or was it something you didn't see coming at all?"
"One theme I keep hearing in these chats is that the team matters more than the bank – two groups at the same firm can apparently feel like different companies. I find that hard to evaluate from the outside, and it makes me hesitant to fixate on a specific group when I don't yet have a basis for choosing one. So I'm curious about your experience: how has your team treated you since you joined, and walking in, did you already know where you wanted to end up? I'd love any color on how your group actually runs day to day."
"I've been told that culture is the quiet deciding factor for a lot of senior moves – that people rarely leave over the work itself, they leave over how a firm treats their time. What I can't gauge as a student is whether that's visible at the junior level, or whether every analyst seat feels roughly the same regardless of the logo on the door. You've now worked at a few different shops – did the culture differences actually reach you as an analyst, and of the cultures you've experienced, which one fit you best?"
The second way is to craft a story, meaning a past experience of your own. Here are the same three questions told as stories:
"During my PE internship last spring, the workload arrived all at once – the first week I was handed a CIM teardown and a working capital analysis in the same afternoon, and I genuinely didn't know which to do first. My manager's advice was just to triage and start, which worked better than I expected, and by the end I'd found a rhythm. Still, I assume a banking seat raises that bar considerably. When you made the jump from student to full-timer, what hit you hardest – and did anything you'd overlooked during your internship come back around with much higher stakes?"
"Three weeks into my internship on a growth equity team, the thing that's struck me most is how much weight the investors put on people – the partners will pass on great numbers if the management team doesn't hold up, and internally the firm mirrors that, with a lot of deliberate effort on cohesion. It's reframed how I think about what makes a team effective. I'm still set on starting in Investment Banking, for reasons I'd gladly walk through, but it left me wondering about your firm: do the groups there run as lean as advisors are famous for, or does it vary group to group – and if it varies, what drives it?"
"That matches what you're describing about your firm's culture – my internship last summer was the same way, to the point that the analysts had a standing Thursday dinner the VPs crashed half the time. I once ran into my Associate at a concert and instead of the awkward nod he introduced me to his friends. (chuckle) But that was a satellite office with a gentler pace, so I've wondered if that closeness survives a heavier deal load. Given how busy your office is, how does the team stay that tight-knit in practice? You all seem to genuinely be in sync."
A caveat on difficulty: pulling this off requires having done quite a few chats already, because knowing when to jump in and how long to talk only comes from direct experience. Coffee chats are unlike any conversation you have with friends or family, and acclimating to the setting is a prerequisite for feeling comfortable enough to share your own view, build on theirs, and bring both together to either probe deeper or move the call along.
Follow the Structure of Their Story
There's a reason capital-markets interviews follow a fixed structure, behavioral then technical, and a fixed sequence within each. Behaviorals open with Tell Me About Yourself, Why This Role, Why This Firm, then a few more on strengths, weaknesses, why you, a time you overcame a challenge. Technicals start with very basic accounting and valuation and escalate to a hairy accretion/dilution or paper LBO. Firms do this because it's easier to follow. There might be marginal insight in throwing candidates through the blender, but it isn't worth distorting their performance.
In the professional world, structure is appreciated, and the easier it is to follow, the better, you see it in tables of contents, in the tab and section arrangement of a clean financial model, in the agenda at the top of any meeting. Your coffee chat should have structure too, but it must be unspoken. Announcing an agenda at the start is one of the surest ways to turn a chat into a Q&A, and it's also wildly entitled: you'd be telling someone in a position of relative authority, who carved time out of a far busier day than yours, exactly how to run the call. Imagine a high schooler asked you how you got into your college program, you agreed, and then they sent a list dictating where to meet, when, what to wear, and the exact topics you should cover. They'd look prepared, sure, and also like they had no self-awareness and thought their objectives mattered more than yours.
So the structure is dynamic, not static, dependent on who you're talking to and what they want to discuss. It should be so subtle they can't tell you're following one. What isn't subtle is the absence of confusion they feel when your questions arrive in an organized fashion, and that clarity rubs off on how they see you: organized, with a plan, a plan you're using as an outline rather than a bible. Most students treat their prepared question list as a bible, which is a one-way ticket to Q&A-land.
The structure to follow is the same one the person uses when they introduce themselves. Remember that your own intro should contain your most important and impressive professional points, and a colleague is someone who can deliver that perfectly. The person you're talking to has reached colleague status, so they've refined their intro down to its most salient points. It follows that touching on those very points throughout the conversation is what maximizes rapport. Listen for the timeline implicit in their introduction and note the "chapters": pre-college (often a sport or activity played at a high level), college (the finance catalyst, clubs, recruiting, internships), post-college (full-time Analyst, "figuring it out," current firm), and for senior bankers, their twenties (switching careers, a notable accomplishment, moving countries). Use those chapters to bucket your questions, which makes it far easier to turn a simple question into a complex one.
Skip the structure and you end up firing unrelated questions, which paints you as disorganized, unsure what you want from the conversation, and only half-listening. When you hop around, the person feels neither heard nor any rapport. And yes, you could "riff" and "go with the flow," but in my experience the only students who insist on that are the ones unwilling to do the marginal work a structure requires. Put it this way: if you've done 50 chats and I've done 200, and I consistently follow a structure while you don't, who's going to have the smoother conversation? As with everything here, take it and test it in your own chats before deciding, direct experience is king.
Stay Humble: Two Questions That Quietly Kill Rapport
This one is simple: don't be an asshole on these chats. The people you're talking to are ahead of you; treat them that way. Humility usually breaks in two specific failure modes.
The first is speaking in absolutes about a topic they know far better than you:
"I saw you moved from your bank's Industrials team to its Technology group, and I'm sure you'd wanted out of Industrials from the start, as most analysts there do, since tech is where all the interesting deals are anyway. Did you consider jumping to a startup instead?"
The problem is that this leaves no room for an alternative, or it frames any alternative as abnormal. The tone is prescriptive rather than inquisitive: "you should've done this" instead of "you did this, here's why I think you did, but I'd love to hear your perspective."
The second is the show-off question, so obviously engineered to flaunt knowledge that it erodes whatever rapport you'd built:
"Since you sit in the Agriculture group at the Royal Bank of Patagonia, what do you think about the spike in wheat futures triggered by the export bans recently coordinated by the 5 major Black Sea producers – Russia, Ukraine, Romania, Bulgaria & Kazakhstan – especially as the WTO has signaled emergency tariff reviews after Reuters published that series on the fertilizer shortage – have you read it?"
That's exaggerated, and I doubt any of you are showing off quite that egregiously, but you can probably spot traces of your own convoluted questions in it. There's a saying in restaurants, "location, location, location," meaning where you are matters more than the quality of the food. Coffee chats are the same. The convoluted question is the food, the thing that can showcase how much of a colleague you are and how deeply you understand an industry or event, but its quality is only realized if the location is right. In a chat, location is simply when you ask: how related is it to what they just said? You'll only get this right after 10 to 20 chats, because a game is only fun once you've learned its rules. Pay down that ignorance debt as fast as you can.
Never Ask Yes/No Questions
A yes/no question instantly turns a chat into a Q&A, the one thing you're trying to avoid. Beyond breaking the flow, it positions you as someone who didn't do their research and often outright frustrates the other person. These are questions you could confidently answer with a Google search or, these days, with ChatGPT or any other generative-AI chatbot. And if you can find it online, why are you asking a professional?
One reason is that you were lazy and didn't look. That's avoidable, and it's part of why you prepare questions beforehand, the act of trying to answer them yourself reveals what's online versus what isn't, letting you refocus on the latter. The more common reason is that a piece is genuinely missing from what's online, a professional's unique perspective, an applied understanding of what you read, or some mix. But if you don't show them the research you did, they'll assume you did none. Walking them through your thought process fixes this, as does stating what you expect their answer to be. Do both before you ask, and you both win: they understand where you're coming from, and you look well-researched. To phrase the whole rule differently, your coffee chat questions should always be hunting for an opinion. (If you genuinely need to clarify a fact, you can ask a yes/no question, but usually only to frame a much larger question before passing the mic back.)
Vary Your Acknowledgements
It's incredibly easy to forget to vary how you acknowledge people, and incredibly noticeable when you don't. Repeating the same word makes you sound like you're going through the motions or not paying attention, even when you're genuinely engaged and just forgot to switch it up. That third case, interested but forgetful, is the one most students fall into; you rarely actually zone out, but it doesn't sound that way to the professional.
The common acknowledgements are "got it," "that makes sense," "thank you for that," "okay," "sounds good," and so on. The fix is low-hanging fruit: keep five different acknowledgements visible on your dashboard during the chat, so when you sense you're repeating yourself you can glance up and grab another without much thought. I tried deliberately cycling through all five, but that used more brainpower than it was worth, so I reverted to just keeping them handy.
Ammunition vs. Rapport-Building Questions
Beyond the simple-to-complex spectrum, questions also come in two types.
Interview ammunition questions are aimed at improving your own behavioral answers, the exact reasons, phrases, and context that make them up. You obviously can't ask a professional these the way an interviewer asks you, so use the simple-to-complex continuum to bridge the gap. Professionals in a given role tend to give many of the same points to the most common behavioral questions, use those points to build your own, because the people who know how to answer correctly are the ones who broke in, and their answers are even better now that they've actually worked the job. Here are conversions I'd make (these look shorter than the earlier complex questions because the summary and thought-process pieces are chat-dependent):
"Why [banking]?" → "Why did you end up choosing [banking] over [consulting]?"
"Why this team / firm?" → "What drew you to the team you're currently on?"
"Why should we pick you?" → "What traits are common among the top analysts?"
"Where do you see yourself in 5 / 10 / 15 years?" → "Have you thought about what you want to do after [banking]?"
Rapport-building questions fill the gaps that ammunition questions leave. If ammunition questions are "selfish," the answers help you, rapport-building questions are "selfless," the kind the other person actually enjoys answering. An Analyst might love talking about their recruiting journey and how they got here. An Associate might love talking about their first big deal or what earned them a promotion. A VP might enjoy the first deal they ran point on. A Director might enjoy the first big client they landed. These should make up the bulk of your conversation, because the primary aim is the referral and a huge component of that is rapport, the more you get them talking about themselves, the more they like you. Do that, speak like a colleague, and convey your readiness, and the referral is yours.
While I'm not a fan of trying to triangulate your odds, you should be able to reasonably gauge whether the other person is engaged, a deliberately neutral word, because someone can be unsure about you and still be evaluating you, which requires engagement. A good rule of thumb is the length of their answers: the longer, the better. Just remember you don't know what kind of day they've had, so read the room and treat all of this as something to experiment with rather than gospel.
When You Hit an Awkward Pause
If you accidentally ask a yes/no question and the conversation stalls, circle back to something they mentioned earlier:
"[awkward pause]...Right, actually – something you said earlier I wanted to come back to. You mentioned your group runs its own training program for new analysts, what does that look like? I'd guess having it in-house makes it a lot more deal-specific than the standard rotational bootcamp?"
Use the same move if the chat is dry and you've burned through your personalized questions before the fifteen-minute mark. Candidly, though, if that's happening regularly, either you're not yet good at coffee chatting or the person was forced onto the call. More reps fix the former.
Running the Chat, Part 3: The Close
Transition to the close around the twenty-minute mark, and at the very least make it to fifteen minutes before you do. The script:
Script · Adapt to your context
"Hey [Name], quick time-check on my end – we've got a few minutes left and I don't want to run over, so do you still have room for a couple more questions?…[let them answer]…Awesome. Shifting to the recruiting side of things…"
The reason for asking permission first is that you want to be as polite as possible right before you start asking "selfish" questions. They know this part is coming and have been assessing you from the start; confirming they have time removes any chance they read your recruiting questions as entitlement.
One condition for a referral, beyond proving you're top talent, is expressing interest in the firm. Your outreach implies it, but make it explicit right before the recruiting questions:
"David, I really appreciate you doing this today. [Firm ABC's San Francisco office] was already on my radar through a couple of ex-interns, but the way you described [the deal exposure and the team culture] made it concrete – I'd want to replicate that experience next summer and in my first years in the industry…"
"Replicate that experience" is chosen on purpose. It isn't as premature or forward as "join your team" or "work with you," but it still carries enough weight to leave an honest, positive impression.
Then ask the three essential recruitment questions, plus any others you prepared. It never hurts to ask, and since you're not asking for a referral directly, you never put them in the awkward position of saying no. The worst they'll do is say "let me get back to you on that" and then go quiet.
Script · Adapt to your context
Teammate Connection – "from everything you've said, your time at [firm name] has clearly been worth replicating, and that's exactly what I'm hoping to do in my first couple of years. To see the group through another lens, would you have a recommendation or two for people I could connect with – through you, or on my own?"
Interview (Application) Timelines – "perfect, thank you. Before I forget – for [their firm's/office's] coming summer cycle, do you have any sense of when applications drop or when first-round interviews typically happen?"
Staying In Touch – "awesome, thank you. One last thing – if a question or two surfaces as I go through the process, would you be open to me emailing you?"
When you ask for a teammate connection, come prepared with an idea of who and why. Having a reason ready, however rough, is essential, because about 50% of the time they'll volley back with "What would you like to learn more about?" or "Who would be good for you to speak to?" That question is a neutral indicator of your performance, so don't read into it, just don't get caught flat-footed.
It is a bad sign if they dodge or give curt answers to all your questions. If that happens, don't waste energy estimating your odds, they're probably zero. Instead, immediately after the call, reflect on how you responded, introduced yourself, and built your questions. That reflection is, alongside listening to peers' chats or having someone review yours, the single best way to surface real improvements for next time.
Once you've gotten what you came for, end the call. This part matters least, because the referral is already won or lost. Thank them and ask to stay in touch:
Script · Adapt to your context
"I just wanted to thank you very much for taking the time to speak with me. I've been looking forward to speaking with you for a while and I really enjoyed hearing about XXX"
If you like, repeat one or two things they said and note what you found interesting.
After the Chat: Follow Up and Nurture
In the three to twelve hours following the chat, depending on whether it was morning, afternoon, or evening, send a thank-you email. Reinforce the salient points from your conversation, and remind them of anything they said they'd "get back to you" on. If they end up ghosting you on it, which happens, don't take it personally; you're low on their priority list and they probably just forgot.
If you started early, this is also where the nurture sequence lives: a brief email roughly every three months over the following six or so months, just to stay on their radar without ever asking for a job favor. That accumulated goodwill is what turns a one-time contact into an advocate.
Following Up Without Pestering
Put yourself in a professional's shoes. You're asking them for help they're in no way obligated to give. That dynamic is the source of the common belief that "following up more than X times is rude." Here's my honest take: it's rude because most students don't know how to ask for help properly, meaning politely, professionally, and pleasantly.
Every follow-up is a reminder for them to do the thing you asked. You're not the only student emailing them, often more than once, and none of you are anywhere near their top priority, their actual job. But the vast majority of students don't follow up at all. Recall the funnel: of the thirty students who send initial outreach, only about fifteen track it methodically and take a scientific approach, and that's the group that reaches the first round. Tracking your outreach is the only way to know who to follow up with and when, which means the only people sending more than one email are the ones being methodical. So every follow-up you send actually separates you from the pack.
When an email goes unanswered, your first instinct is to assume they deemed you unworthy. Usually they're just too busy to reply, or you slipped their mind. Most professionals do take networking calls, so if they go quiet, it's worth a follow-up that strips away any blame for forgetting and any obligation to have replied:
Script · Adapt to your context
"I emailed you last week but I'm sure my email got lost somewhere in your inbox. I really appreciate any time you can spare, even if it's just 5 – 10 minutes."
Minimizing the ask, reducing the time commitment, makes it human nature for them to say yes. Two more lines that strike the right tone:
"While I'm very interested in speaking with you, I'd hate to bother you and want to ensure I'm striking the right balance between doggedness & respect."
"You're probably incredibly busy and I'd hate to fill your inbox up more than I should."
The goal is for your follow-ups to read as persistence and diligence rather than frustration. A scientific, rules-based approach helps here because it removes emotion from the decision. A lot of the urge to over-follow-up comes from the fear that you won't get another chat at the firm, and that pressure mounts the longer you wait. The two antidotes are to start early (worth repeating) and to follow a rules-based cadence.
If you're unsure of the right follow-up cadence, work through the Networking Journey Miro Mind Map.
A related point on politeness: be polite, but not too polite. Thank them when you hop on and again at the end, specifically for the time they're giving you, and of course thank them if they share a genuinely insightful point. But students often take this to an extreme, thanking the person after every single answer and then profusely again at the close. That sounds disingenuous, hurts rapport, and makes the chat more formal than it should be, the only setting where you thank someone after every answer is a Q&A. Our instinct as students talking to strangers is to over-formalize because we're terrified of saying something rude, which is fair, but you're trying to position yourself as a colleague, and colleagues don't talk to each other that way. Offering to be the one who calls them, by the way, is just common courtesy. They're normal people too.
When a Coffee Chat Becomes an Interview
For ultra-competitive processes, where more students are networking than there are first-round slots, firms sometimes run evaluative coffee chats that double as interviews. You can't know whether a chat will be evaluative until you're on the call, and there's no difference between preparing for one and preparing for an interview. The only real defense is the one you've heard a hundred times: prepare early.
These are rare. Personally, I've had only three. One was with UBS, where I got grilled on LBOs for the fifteen minutes after the TMAY exchange. One was with BofA, where an employee asked about the three deals on my resume. And one was with KKR, where I was networking for a role in their Reinsurance Private Equity group and discussed a resume deal with an Associate for about ten minutes.
One reframe worth holding onto: if you do get asked technicals or interview questions on a chat, take it as a good sign. Firms only bother evaluating candidates who already look like they deserve a first round. The chat is testing whether you also sound like you do.
To make sure you're never caught flat-footed, have these open before any chat:
- Pre-written behavioral answers (TMAY, "Why this role?", strengths and weaknesses, and so on)
- Scripted deal walkthroughs and stock pitches (the ones on your resume)
- Your resume
- ibvine.io (select "ALL" and switch to List View for Ctrl+F access)
A note on intra-chat research, since it ties the dashboard together: doing live lookups to make your answers sound sharper, recent headlines, sector valuation trends, rates, macro indicators, only makes sense once you can reliably get a chat across the twenty-minute line while having a conversation. If you can't yet hold the 60/40 split, there's no point polishing your answers, because you're not getting the referral anyway. Preparedness and personality. In that order of prerequisite, but never one without the other.
A Final Word
There is no silver bullet here, and anyone who promises one is selling you something. Coffee chats are opaque by nature, and an endless list of factors outside your control affects your odds. But a short list of things inside your control shows up in every single chat, and getting those right, the flawless introduction, the real conversation, the smooth transitions, the genuine interest, is what lets a student with less experience beat one with more. Consistency is king.
If this guide doesn't fully click the first time, read it again. The same goes for your technicals and your behaviorals: practice is literally the only way to get better, and we tend to need to be reminded more than we need to be taught. I was a 15-second-awkward-silence introvert when I started, and reps alone turned coffee chatting into my full-time job. Recruiting is a competition, and the people who train harder and longer than everyone else are the ones who win it. Start early, target the bottom of the hierarchy, make your outreach about them, run a real conversation, follow up like a professional, and let the referral take care of itself.
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